Comments on: Lucas Cranach and Albrecht Dürer: Christian Artists

By: Leif Rogers

Leif Rogers — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:48:57 +0000

One of the main problems, I think, is that most modern art has cut ties with the Church (or any religion, for that matter) and has become ignorant of its symbolism, etc. And, for that matter, to be "religious" is to commit artistic suicide in a lot of mainstream circles. Methinks many artists that could manage great power with their work shy away for fear of not being represented at a high fallutin' gallery or end up being perceived of as that "Christian Right wing nut" which could then crush their already stormy career choice.

Of course, on the other hand, art typically has an uphill battle to fight with perceptions as it tries to enter the Church. The last 100 years have given it a pretty scattershot image as it has rolled through different modes, moods, etc. and I think the trend then for churches is to fall back on "safe" inspirational images of boats in storms, etc. as a method of having art without having to commit to whatever "beast" is unleashed on them from the artist. Aesthetics, lack of art education and/or appreciation, etc. all pour into this as well.

But then, in terms of economics, art and artists cost money. A lot more money than prints and generic work and this can also be a fact or in deciding whether or not a church goes for hiring artists.

Sigh. I wish it weren't like it and perhaps it isn't everywhere but my experience has told me otherwise.

By: Pr. John Rutz

Pr. John Rutz — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:04:59 +0000

A couple of sources for woodcuts which are free for use in church bulletins or parish education are the Digital Image Archive at the Pitts Theological Library. All you have to do is include this acknowledgement: "Courtesy of the Digital Image Archive, Pitts Theology Library, Candler School of Theology, Emory University." A nice selection of Durer images are available at the Wetmore Print Collection of Connecticut College. To quote them: "Copyfright? We encourage your free reproduction and distribution of these digital images. You need not ask us for permission. Permission granted!"

There are lots of woodcuts and engravings on both of these sites. Images are available in high resolution. A laser printer and standard photocopier are all you need to provide excellent quality for worship folders or brochures.

By: Dr Matthew Phillips

Dr Matthew Phillips — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:02:48 +0000

The Cranachs and Duerer were some of the greatest artists in history. I am very glad they were Lutheran. I wish we could get some artists to use their style to decorate our churches. Most modern and post-modern art (even Christian art) lacks the power of their images.

By: ptmccain

ptmccain — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:09:41 +0000

Becky, most every image I'm aware I've seen used in various publications is in the public domain, so there are no huge expense involved. And, yes, absolutely, a well prepared fund raising brochure produces much better results. It's all about communication. I hope you support Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne, very generously. If folks would, they would not have to ask for funding as much as they do. It's really that simple. So, respectfully, rather than be negative about these things, would you join me in praying for, and then supporting our seminaries? Thanks, and God bless.

By: Becky

Becky — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:00:15 +0000

I've been delighted to see paintings by Cranach, Durer and others turning up here and in synodical publications and in "Good News." What a splendid restoration to their proper use! But how do you get permission to use them? I would like to use some of the old woodcuts for our church bulletin. The beautiful Durer "Trinity" is held by, I think, the Boston Museum of Art which demands a hefty fee for use. Do you get some kind of "package permission"? Or is there plenty available that is public domain?
While I rejoice to see the tremendous art, I am also bothered by things like the handsome fund raiser brochure sent out by the seminary in Fort Wayne. I must suppose that that piece of mail cost a fortune; and I keep getting more and more such requests for funds. What's happening? Have printing and reproduction costs changed radically in the past decade? Do these elegant flyers increase donations far beyond more modest letters?

By: The Brothers of John the Steadfast » Lucas Cranach, Albrecht Durer

The Brothers of John the Steadfast » Lucas Cranach, Albrecht Durer — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:41:54 +0000

[...] it ever since. For a wonderful exploration of just that piece, head on over to the beautiful Cyberbrethren site for a meditation. It’s a perfect way to spend Monday of Holy [...]

By: ptmccain

ptmccain — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:49:54 +0000

Thanks Bruce!

By: ptmccain

ptmccain — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:49:42 +0000

Thanks, Mom! Love you, Paul.

By: Jean A. McCain

Jean A. McCain — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:20:56 +0000

Powerful explanation – powerful message of the cost of Christ's victory and ours. Amazing how much is included in this painting. Thank you for this thorough explanation – particularly meaningful during this Holy Week. I understand why this picture marks your site for it proclaims so clearly what you believe, teach, and proclaim…and guides us to do the same.

By: BGK

BGK — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:48:09 +0000

Thanks Paul.