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	<title>Comments on: Lutheranism&#8217;s Attitude About the Ancient Church Fathers</title>
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		<title>By: robert buechler</title>
		<link>http://cyberbrethren.com/2010/01/19/lutheranisms-attitude-about-the-ancient-church-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-10214</link>
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		<description>Very good. I was reminded by a RC priest that the idea of Mary being the mother of the church is an ancient belief from Irenaeus. That may be true, but that doesn&#039;t mean Irenaeus&#039; opinion, no matter how pius, is correct. I am reminded of what both Augustine and Thomas Aquinas said (Thomas agreeing with Augustine actually). To paraphrase, the doctors of the church can err. Scripture does not err, for it is God&#039;s Word. Therefore all the Church Fathers must be brought to the Scriptures, and where they agree well and good. Where they move away from Scripture, Scripture is to be listened to over the Church Fathers. 

For example, Tertullian wrote about marriage and had some good things to say on the subject. However he viewed marriage as eternal in the sense that married people would still be married in heaven. Clearly this goes against our Lord&#039;s teachings in the Gospels. So Tertullian is to be rejected on this one point, and Scriptures lifted up as superior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good. I was reminded by a RC priest that the idea of Mary being the mother of the church is an ancient belief from Irenaeus. That may be true, but that doesn&#8217;t mean Irenaeus&#8217; opinion, no matter how pius, is correct. I am reminded of what both Augustine and Thomas Aquinas said (Thomas agreeing with Augustine actually). To paraphrase, the doctors of the church can err. Scripture does not err, for it is God&#8217;s Word. Therefore all the Church Fathers must be brought to the Scriptures, and where they agree well and good. Where they move away from Scripture, Scripture is to be listened to over the Church Fathers. </p>
<p>For example, Tertullian wrote about marriage and had some good things to say on the subject. However he viewed marriage as eternal in the sense that married people would still be married in heaven. Clearly this goes against our Lord&#8217;s teachings in the Gospels. So Tertullian is to be rejected on this one point, and Scriptures lifted up as superior.</p>
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		<title>By: aldenswan.com » Blog Archive &#187; Lutheranism’s Attitude About the Ancient Church Fathers</title>
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		<description>[...] nice quote courtesy of Paul T. McCain at CyberBrethren.com: The Lutheran Church has never despised or even disregarded the traditions that have come down from [...]</description>
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