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The Beatification of John Paul II: How It’s Done

February 19th, 2011
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  1. James
    February 19th, 2011 at 21:54 | #1

    This is one reason why I could never convert to Catholicism. The Catholic church would expect me to pray to a (once famous) dead human, asking him to plead my cause before God. This assumes that such dead church-approved saints were indeed the chosen messengers of God, and that these dead people are still wandering around this world, always watching and listening as they patiently wait for us to contact them with our requests.

    Is there any evidence in the bible and in any of Lutheran doctrine that people even know or even care what happens on earth after they die.

  2. Veiko Vihuri
    February 20th, 2011 at 12:25 | #2

    “Is there any evidence in the bible and in any of Lutheran doctrine that people even know or even care what happens on earth after they die.”

    See Revelation 5:8 and 6:9-10. The saints are not dead.

  3. February 20th, 2011 at 12:31 | #3

    @Veiko Vihuri
    That the dead in Christ are in His presence, at rest and peace, until the day of Christ’s reappearing on earth is no warrant for prayers directed their way. Rome is wrong on this one, very badly wrong.

  4. Veiko Vihuri
    February 20th, 2011 at 13:10 | #4

    I am not talking about Rome, I am just saying that the saints are not dead. Apology XXI: “We admit that, just as the saints (when alive) pray for the Church universal in general, so in heaven they pray for the Church in general.” However, our Roman Catholic, Orthodox or Oriental fellow Christians may ask, why Lutherans hold the following statement: “Furthermore, even if the saints do pray for the Church, that does not mean they should be invoked.” We follow many ancient church traditions that have not been commanded by the Scripture.

    • February 20th, 2011 at 13:11 | #5

      The reason we do not pray to the dead is fully explained in the Lutheran Confessions. Please be very careful not to quote them selectively.

  5. Steve Newell
    February 20th, 2011 at 15:09 | #6

    I guess the JP2 is on the fast track to sainthood.

  6. Michael Mohr
    February 21st, 2011 at 10:43 | #7

    “Pope Benedict XVI will join spiritually through a live video link.” – The RCC goes “church growth” with satellite worship and everything!

    If “the coffin containing the remains of John Paul II, suitably embellished – so we cannot see the body of John Paul II,” then how can it be that “a relic that will be taken at the time”? It has not been anywhere near long enough – any “relic” they retrieve will still have corrupting tissue on it. ([shudder] There are some things you just don’t want to know.)

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